thinking about paying out of my contract so i can get this pretty thing!

manwaring: Mmm . . . DO IT!!!!

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manwaring: it costs 175 to pay out, and the phone costs 200, so that is 375, which is 25 cheaper than when you considered it before

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manwaring: DONE

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dbox: I did it. It was worth it.

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leahmariv: convince gabe will ya

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leahmariv: i figure then we can sell both our phones on ebay
they are still in great condition

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manwaring: that you can

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trishalee: i'm pretty sure I will be paying out my Verizon contract along with you!!!

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leahmariv: woohooo how exciting for us....trisha tell gabe its a good idea!

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ingamae: I am totally going to buy out of my contract with Verizon and give my En V to my mommy to get this precious gem of an I phone! woooooo hooo! we will be twins!

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leahmariv: fun ingamea
i love my en v but i mean the iphone is in a class of its own!

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justindaniel: Amen!!!

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hannah: I know! I want it too!

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ingamae: Yeah i love my En V too, but you are right the IPHONE is in a CLASS of its own and I am ready as you are girl!hehe

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nichole: Then we will be mobile to mobile again.

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leahmariv: i know i miss it nichole

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manwaring: Apple is really about to take over the world . . .

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ransomedone: Leah, what kind of phone do you have now?

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leahmariv: lg en v

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heathera: ...that would be soooo AMAZING!!!!!

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lacy: oh man that would be so sweet!

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trishalee: i told Gabe!!!
i think he's on board now! :)
let's get some more hang time in this week!

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leahmariv: for sure trisha

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ransomedone: Let me know if you sell it, ok?

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john505: @DR - I intentionally went with the AT&T GoPhone option with my iPhone. I pay $65/month with rollover minutes, since I barely use my minutes I have about 2000 minutes saved up from my 400 minute plan. I get free nights and weekends :)

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john505: @anyone, what it the advantage of this iphone compared to my "vintage" iphone?

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sarahkoi: john that plans dope!

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john505: and there is no trade-out option? Mine is only 6 mos. old

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sarahkoi: its thinner, faster safari, and.. someone else can finish the rest lol

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john505: well I barely use the browser, email and BUP2ing are its main purposes for me. The downside is when I move to Redding, I wont fit in as well :D

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sarahkoi: if you have anything mac. you'll be loved. haha

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leahmariv: john505 watch the video on it its amazing

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john505: @leah - I just finished the keynote - I didn't know the 3G was so fast!!! I'm beginning to be drawn like a moth to a flame and I hear the white 16GB calling my name! I have some free cash coming to me in the form of a kickback from Epson from selling 2 $4,000 printers :) Now the question is what to do with my soon to be used iPhone!

at 07:27PM 06/10/08

donnienunn: well, if AT&T had better coverage in my area (Southeast GA) I'd be glad to buy it from you. Maybe you can convince them to put towers up all over America and then I can buy it.

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john505: Does it not work in B-wick? Probably not Blackshear :P

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2cjustice: It's worth the investment. I think Bill would agree.

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shannonross: Leah, does Weaverville have AT&T yet? Or coming soon???

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donnienunn: It will work in town, but just try to drive down 341 or 82 headed west. you start thinking, "what cell phone?" Verizon, however, has the best coverage around. The only place it doesn't work is in my kitchen, next to my refrigerator.

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leahmariv: @donnienunn yeah we do not have a iphone yet cause it did not get great reception in weaverviile but now we are moving so yippee i can get it

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leahmariv: shannon it has it but not great

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leahmariv: it think calling is fine but the web is hard to get i thnk

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shannonross: we'll probably keep Verizon for that reason :)

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john505: @donnie: when you have a spare 45 mins or so, drive over to Blackshear and tell me if you get service, so when I travel home I will know... :)

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leahmariv: yeah thats why we did but hopefully they will put up a tower!!

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shannonross: well, yeah...probably about the time we resign our 2 year contract :)

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leahmariv: lol totally

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daverix: @John505, you get good coverage in waycross and a little in blackshear but as soon as you get out of town you start to lose it.

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donnienunn: thanks dave, you saved me that spare (yeah right) 45 minutes.

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john505: as long as it works in B-shear and Wayx then thats great! I'd be the talk of the town since no one in pierce county has even seen an iPhone :)

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donnienunn: you are probably right.

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john505: So when I'm that way again I will stop by the glamorous and ever-swanky Nunn Finer. I hear its fantastic!

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donnienunn: Man, to finally meet you in person would be the freakin' bomb! Mon - Sat, 10am to 530pm.

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john505: Wow, I didn't know I was that big of a deal :)

I'll come and bring an appropriate lunch...

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donnienunn: well, at the moment, any visitation is great. I sit around all day and either play on my iMac or play on my KORG. Both are fun, don't get me wrong. People are easier to talk to, however.

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john505: Jesus, I ask for a very special blessing on Nunn Finer. I pray that you would flood them with not only business but true PATRONAGE in Jesus name. Repeat clients, wonderful art, donations, recommendations, and clients that bring the financial blessings of heaven! I ask that you would dispatch provision angels from all areas to usher in your presence, goodness and financial blessing! AMEN!

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elizabetha: @ leah.. talk to Holly Frost.. she doesnt get good reception... i have heard from various people in redding that they don't get good reception. i dont think it's just that area.. it might be the whole at&t.. i dont know.. i like verizon.. i get connection everywhere!

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leahmariv: my whole fam has at&t and iphone they get fien reception in redding but when they bring there phones to weaverville it is not good. verizon is fine but do they have a iphone no lol

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nichole: Verizon has a better network- no question about that, and decent phones. At&t has better devices and a decent network. It just depends on what is most important to you -- the network, or the device. :)

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leahmariv: true true

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ian: I'm waiting on the iPhone Air

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leahmariv: haha

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elizabetha: i agree with u nichole.. i honestly don't care about my phone as long as it works.. i have become anti cellphone lately..

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wendi: It's WORTH every penny!!! I vote for getting it! :D

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nichole: AT&T just bought a cell phone company called "Edge" which is on the coast and might be in Weavervlle (not sure) so Weaverville might get AT&T towers sooner than that :)

(Daniel pretty much dictated this info for me, as I am really not all that wireless-network knowledgeable --- and I basically recited what he always says on my above comment as well)

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leahmariv: lol nichole

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nichole: haha. I just felt the need to clarify.... lol.

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manwaring: AT&T are supposedly about to put more towers up in redding....

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ingamae: I was anti I phone for about a year and then the Lord delivered me from that religious spirit! lol!! ;-)

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ingamae: i actually got totally delivered by watching all the Been Up 2ers from Redding use their I phone and Bill and Beni are my hero's sooooooo......yup..i do what they do..except jump off a cliff.;-)

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elizabetha: @ingame... I guess I am not delievered from it. I won't use iphones, ipods, or macs..

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manwaring: well ... Then ... Guess you don't really like using awesome stuff :)

Don't settle for second best ever (non apple products)

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leahmariv: PREACH IT LUKE!!!

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leahmariv: @ingamea im glad cause excellence is great and all apple product are excellent !

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ingamae: @elizabetha: I am the same way girlfriend! I was the same way I mean.......i was just not into the iphones, ipods and macs but i got a revelation!Excellence!
@leahmariv and manwaring:You are right MACS are AWESOME!!!! I am convinced Jesus would have had one, and actually has one in Heaven now.

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aslan: A thought: Most believers would accept the Scriptual imperative to die to "self".

"i" : the 1st person singular pronoun one uses when making reference to one's "self"

"i"mac, "i"pod, "i"phone, "i"tunes, etc. hmmmmmmm

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manwaring: . . . the only comeback I have is . . . you are a Lion . . . I am higher up the foodchain

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manwaring: Unless of course we were trapped in the same room . . . then I become significantly lower than you

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aslan: Ad hominem fallacy in logic: Ignore the argument and attack the other's character.
I am a truth teller, and not a lyin' (or lion, as you spell it).

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manwaring: you should know that during debate luke manwaring likes to use personal attacks, whit, and sarcasm to the table ...

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leahmariv: lol

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jennaliyah: Aslan, you're so funny! (and very witty... makes it that much more interesting)

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aslan: I at least so far have avoided that favorite for Nathan, "I hate you." :) Do you then accept defeat?

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manwaring: Never!!

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john505: @Aslan - I know ad hominem well. My debate coach was ruthless about that and I hold high standards for people who are running for any office. My view is that if your values and the positions you hold aren't strong enough to support you without attacking the other person then you shouldnt be competing :)

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manwaring: Yes, but this rule really only truly applies when debating a fellow human

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manwaring: . . . with opposable thumbs

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john505: @manwaring; agreed!

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elizabetha: @luke.. I am not settling for second best. I just prefer a different computer's system, phone system over that of an apple world.. My whole opinion about it is they both have terrific quailities about them.. In my field of study a lot of the programs we use are on pcs. I have to go with what the industry is asking of us. It's a job thing and a personal choice.
And I am not peer pressured into buying something that everyone else has.

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manwaring: what programs?

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elizabetha: @Aslan.. .. ur hiliarious.. i need to come home and visit u..

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elizabetha: Autocad? I am designer.. Last time I checked (6 mnths ago) they weren't formatted for them. I don't believe other programs cross over as well.

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manwaring: Autocad? what do you design?

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manwaring: I looked it up . . . yeah . . . well you can run PC on a Mac :D

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elizabetha: I am in interior designer out here in the bay area. That is what we were taught on in school. I know for a fact a lot of civil engineering companies, and architectural companies out here use the same programs and pcs.

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manwaring: Solution . . . have a home computer that is a mac :D

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elizabetha: haha no thank you.. i have my gorgeous new laptop that I use.. it's less than 6 months old..

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manwaring: I used to be one . . . Ask Daniel Miller . . .

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elizabetha: i am a niece of aslan.. he has taught me some tricks.. haha

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manwaring: well Nathan is like a father to me . . . so I guess we are related then

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nichole: Luke am I your auntie??

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manwaring: I guess so

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elizabetha: well.. why haven't i seen you at the full family grubbs' dinners?? maybe you might have to make a guest appearance. or
"family appearance" hee

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manwaring: well . . . there was the big family fall out . . . I am somewhat prejudice to Lions

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elizabetha: oh.. well i am sorry.... welcome to the family anyways...

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dougcrew: Wait. Wasn't there some study about windows running better on the Mac? Isn't the operating system that Autocad is depending on?
Then you can run Autocad and have a real computer.

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manwaring: We won't relent until you own a mac

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manwaring: no?

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dougcrew: right.

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leahmariv: haha

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jacquegrubbs: @manwaring, The answer to Aslan's question about Apple products beginning with 'I' is "i" stands for -- internet. Did you not know this ? :)

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aslan: Yes, Jacque!!! That's the answer!!! Always question premises upon which a conclusion is based.

Now Luke, you owe me your new iphone. :)

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jacquegrubbs: wait, I won the prize .... you do not get it Aslan, I do!!

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manwaring: Well I was not taught that in my Interpersonal Communication class

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aslan: "Hmmmmmmmm".... an implied inquiry, meaning to ponder, consider, wonder about.... to question

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john505: "I wonder as I wander..."

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aslan: Something that WAS taught in said Interpersonal Communication class..... had one been in attendance... :)

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manwaring: Haha . . touche'

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manwaring: It wasn't you, it was all the bible classes and lack of a major that tickled my fancy . . . not to mention winning 3 games

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manwaring: (just thought I'd add that)

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jacquegrubbs: now boys ..... just give me my prize and we're good:)

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john505: I started as a Music Ed. major then went to Christianity then to Communications... Fun times

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manwaring: I went from History, to Business, to Communication, to Journalism, to Mass Media, to well . . .

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john505: I only went 2 years before I relocated to Albuquerque and don't want to go back... I made some lifelong friends and that was worth it all!

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john505: Not to mention got baptized in the Spirit there!

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manwaring: All I found was a Professor that calls me out on beenup2 . . . haha

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john505: and that's not worth it all?

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2cjustice: I thought a real computer means you own a Mac??

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aslan: @manwaring Yes....... BUT..... a professor who loves you. :)

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manwaring: Haha . . . well Im sure you miss someone proposing that a woman should be the President if she hasn't gone through Menopause (I just opened a can, filled with worms)

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aslan: (notice long silence..... Aslan is VERY wise) :)

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manwaring: haha

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leahmariv: This is too funny!!!

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sarahkoi: the endless thread.

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dbox: wow this is awesome! So funny.

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manwaring: apparently all the worms in my can were dead . . . I wanted a good discussion on that matter

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sarahkoi: "elizabetha: @ingame... I guess I am not delievered from it. I won't use iphones, ipods, or macs."

ah my tummy turned!

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leahmariv: oh you stubborn people how do you sleep at night. be free to love all things Good

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leahmariv: and lol luke

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camille: lol leah

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leahmariv: it had to be said i tried to stay quite but i can not stay silent when there is such a problem on hand

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aslan: @daddyratty I know that one :)

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ingamae: I am totally lost and my brain hurts from reading this thread all I wanted to say was that God is in a Good Mood........in other words.....

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ingamae: and this year settling for Good is the ENEMY of BEST.....sooooo get the BEST-a new IPHONE!

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leahmariv: haha thanks ingamae ;)

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elizabetha: @ luke.. i am sorry you had to take a class from a lion.. i am not sure if i could sit through his class... although my sister did.. sorry aslan...
and why would i want to run a pc off a mac? when i can cut the middle man and use a pc.. ? seems more logical..
@john.. i thought of changing my major too.. but it was too costly.. although i absolutely love my degree.. i am interior designer.. who wouldn't love going into people's house rearranging furniture and spending their money!
@sarah.. i chose to not follow the crowd.. and life dangerously without apple products..lol and i am very happy and content.. thank you...

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ingamae: oh and God just reminded me that the two of the most influential spiritual leaders in my life right now are Beni and Bill Johnson and that the Bible is replete with scriptures that instruct us to be followers of spiritual leaders. One such scripture is Hebrew 6:12 That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.
The word "followers" is taken from the Greek word mimetes, from which we get the English word "imitate." Other words that are derived from mimetes are "mimic" and "mime." However, the best translation of this word is actually the word "actor." Therefore, the command to "follow" isn't referring to a casual type of following; rather, it implies an intentional study of the deeds, words, actions and thoughts of another person in an attempt to fully understand that person and then to replicate his attributes in one's own life. Mimic his subject in a masterful way. Such a commitment to act, mimic, or replicate a respected leader is the result of true discipleship. the end.
by Rick Renner Sparkling Gems from the Greek

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ingamae: did i mention that Beni and Bill Johnson have I phones and Macs?? ;-)

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sarahkoi: obsession

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sarahkoi: with ..mac lol not leaders... hahahhahha

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dougcrew: Did the part about windows running BETTER on a mac get lost?

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leahmariv: i can not have people bashing macs on my thread!
it make my profile unclean

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sarahkoi: i love mac!

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leahmariv: haha i totally mis read your comment earlier i did not see that you were quoting her haha.
and about the not leaders yeah

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sarahkoi: oh lol

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leahmariv: im very relieved you love macs!

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sarahkoi: honestly tho, who doesn't like macs? i guess this thread proved us wrong :o ahh

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dbox: well, the real sozo should be for those that choose to remain in their deception and not buy a mac.

Insane: to do the same thing expecting different results.
I am tired of computers not working, slowing down, crashing, the blue screen of death, inferior made components, people just trying to get a product super cheap and therefor sacrifice quality,
I'm tired of poor designs, of useless bundled software, of software only being a demo and really not able to work...

should I continue?

So I chose to not be "insane" but to try something my heart longed for in the beginning...

MAC!!!!!!!!

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dbox: and @ Manwaring... I don't think the worms in your can were dead... I think they were too big and numerous that people were afraid to dive in... lol

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aslan: @dbox Yes........ but how do you REALLY feel. Don't hold back, you can tell us. :)

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dbox: *tear* *tear*... *sniffle*... It's... It's just such a place of FREEDOM! I can open my laptop without fear of it dieing or freezing, I don't have to wait 26 minutes for it to boot because I have some extra programs on it, I can use the bundled software for something productive!!!
I... I... I can do anything, or be anyone!!!
*deep breath* *sniffle* *sigh*...

It is still just a little emotional...
Thanks for your open ears and heart, you big cuddly lion... :)

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aslan: No problem. Anytime..... well, during Daytime hours. Where do I send the bill?

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ingamae: this thread is awesome..........=-)

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sarahkoi: oh my dbox lol

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leahmariv: lol nice

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dbox: @ Aslan: to Your MOM!!!!!!! ooooooohhhhhhhhh!!! lol
sorry I just couldn't resist. :oD... but seriously you could send it to her, I'll be there this weekend...

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dbox: ... I'm so sorry. I just couldn't stop myself and now with the "no delete" policy I can't take it back...
:() *apologetic laughter*

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leahmariv: whats the no delete policy?

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dbox: you know, once you post something you're not supposed to delete it.

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leahmariv: i do not follow that rule! :)

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ingamae: i don't follow that rule either Leah! I deleted some really mean ones about some peeps....then i left a couple up but only the not so mean ones....does that make sense? lol

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leahmariv: haha yeah

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sarahkoi: oops i did that yesterday.. i had to be nice.

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aslan: To my Mom? I glad you're sorry..... i guess...???? Someone explain to me how I've been insulted? I could send it to her....? I'm sure I have a good comeback... if I could only figure out what' been said. :)

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aslan: Oh... I get it..... Really.... is that the best you've got? Are you sure it's "just" those nonMac owners who need a sozo? I've got one you can use next time..... I'm rubber, you're glue..... Or...I know you are but what am I?....... By the way, I do have a Mac :)

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dbox: hahahaha... I miss you guys! How's the coffee shop, aslan?

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aslan: What coffee shop? You mean the one my brother used to own?

Oh come on, you don't want to do some verbal sparring? I love it...... and NEVER lose. Ask Luke. :)

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sarahkoi: dbox, change the subject?!

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sarahkoi: coffee? breaking new grounds.. mmmmm

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aslan: @ sarahkoi & dbox It's Ok, really. :) Ask leah.... :)

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leahmariv: haha true

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elizabetha: @Dustin how can you get Aslan and BIll mistaken? They look nothing a like first off... and Bill is by far the coolest uncle! haha.. I love them both the same!!
and I think the circle of death on macs are quite annoying.. i always get it.. i can never get a mac to work..

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manwaring: . . . that's funny, PC users always seem to say that

(I'M BACK)

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leahmariv: haha nice to have you back

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elizabetha: oohh ggezz.. not you again.. lol

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dbox: sorry for bringing up a sore subject. I didn't know anything happened... thats what happens when you leave for awhile.
and sorry for the mix up :]

You know what's different about the beach ball and the blue screen...
90% of the time the beach ball will work itself out or you just have to force quit one app.
The blue screen, however, is guaranteed crapdom!

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leahmariv: oh you are fine dustin! haha

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dbox: cool!

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ian: Can someone summarize this whole post for me? I lost track.

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manwaring: iPhones are awsm . . .we love macs . . . people who don't love macs are weird . . . I had a communication teacher who is a lion . . .

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manwaring: that was just from my perspective

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sarahkoi: well summarized

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leahmariv: well done luke well done

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dbox: I think that is adequate and fair

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sarahkoi: and it goes on and on my friends..

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dbox: some people started writing it, not knowing what it was...

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sarahkoi: This is the thread that ne-ver ends ...

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dbox: and it goes on and on my friends...

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mamamarlene: this is the longest thread I have ever seen....

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krisann: @mamamarlene- ditto! And I actually read the whole thing thus far.

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sarahkoi: ahhh! mamma you broke up the song lol

@kristann thats amazing :o

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krisann: thank GOD she broke up the song! haha. This thread was fine without it, anyway.

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aslan: @luke I opened the "can of worms"...... but just deleted it. I just didn't want to see the thread die. Still thinking about it. Pray for wisdom in this matter. :)

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manwaring: last week, I actually had a couple of very intelligent ladies agree with me on that matter . . .

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krisann: Okay. I'll open it. I want to know what you have to say, Luke. I'm dying of curiosity.

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dbox: yeah me too. No one is ever willing to open a can that big unless unless they string opinions about it...

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manwaring: My can on a woman as Commander in Chief?

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krisann: That's the one.

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sarahkoi: aha

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ian: Can someone summarize from my last comment until now for me? I lost track.

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leahmariv: i will leave it to luke to do that haa

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manwaring: Okay, so Luke Simon Manwaring strongly believes that the President of the United States of America should only be a man . . .

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manwaring: However, if a woman is take take office, I think she should be post menopause . . .

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leahmariv: amen and amen

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ian: really? that's what was covered between now and then?

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manwaring: yes . . . it was an inside joke between me and aslan . . . it was very brief

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krisann: mmkay. What's the thought process behind the menopause concept. Or maybe I should ask, is there anything *beyond the obvious* that makes you feel a post-menopausal woman would make a better world leader than a pre-menopausal one?

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nichole: Luke are you a woman? And that is why you know all of this so well? I would have never guessed. :)

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manwaring: lol nichole . . . Maggie Thatcher, very good Prime Minister . . . post menopause . . . it just seems to work . . . I am well aware of the offense I am about to cause with my next statement but I was asked . . .

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manwaring: Now, I have never experience a period I do not know how it feels . . . but if on 9/11 there was a female president, going thru the emotions of a period and all that entails . . . do you want her to have the last say in the Situation Room?

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sarahkoi: i read "period"... and stopped reading -ahhhck :O

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leahmariv: luke amen and amen

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krisann: While I would agree with your statements in general, I hope you would agree there are exceptions to all rules.

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nichole: I would say something.... but I wont. hehe. Just know.... you don't know all about all woman. :) They are a mystery. haha.

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krisann: I also feel obligated to add that I agree with your statements for different reasons than the ones you have provided...

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manwaring: I know they are a mystery nichole :D but women are generally more emotional anyway . . . and what if a woman was president and she fell in love with Osama? ;)

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Reggie: I think apple products are over rated for sure and are not compatable for most businesses....especially mine

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krisann: whoa! whole new can... ;)

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ransomedone: UH-OH! There's gonna be trouble now!

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manwaring: they are not compatible with a lot of busniess . . . but they are on their way to being . . . microsoft word runs better on a mac . . . and windows actually runs better on a mac machine . . . and that comment came from a woman, if you can't choose the best computer, you can't lead america :D

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sarahkoi: haha

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leahmariv: LOL

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krisann: ... but he's not opinionated or anything. lol.

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hupagirl: I was actually planning on running for president before menopause - I know whose votes I will not be counting on ;)

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manwaring: well . . . no one can count on my vote . . . I can't vote

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Reggie: well maybe someday...but I live in the here and now, I prefer a blackberry over iphone too.

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krisann: What is it that Kris likes to say? ... "Don't have an opinion where you don't have any authority." Pretty sure that was it. :D

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manwaring: blackberry over iPhone . . . okay . . . well . . . you are delusional . . .

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Reggie: I don't know who Kris is or do I care and I can have any opion I care to have

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manwaring: for those of you who don't really know me . . . don't take me seriously

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krisann: Sorry Reggie, that comment was for Manwaring. ;)

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nichole: @ Reggie I think she was talking to Luke :) Just because Luke is a foreigner, so he cant vote and therefore shouldnt have an opinion on the president being male or female.

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jen: Mom, don't join in this argument. They are just being silly!

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