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xencounters:
The church cannot make the same mistake with Obama that it made with Bill Clinton. Many refused to pray for him, but God's hand was on him and there were several points where he hung in the balance where intersession might have made an enormous difference in his life and presidency. Two of the people he invited to his first inauguration were Paul Cain and Rick Joyner, and they had influence with him throughout his presidency. Joiner has said that some of what happened with Clinton was the direct result of the church cursing him and intercessors not praying for him.
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at 04:43AM 11/05/08
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at 04:43AM 11/05/08
xencounters:
I don't understand what the Lord is up to as far as the country goes, but there is a healing going through the African-American community right now. We need to bless that...
I truly wish Coretta Scott King could have lived to have seen this...
at 04:50AM 11/05/08
I truly wish Coretta Scott King could have lived to have seen this...
at 04:50AM 11/05/08
katrina:
I truly, truly agree. And there is a part of me that is totally proud that I was able to see the day that our country voted in an African American.....
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at 04:56AM 11/05/08
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at 04:56AM 11/05/08
xencounters:
I've thought about it, but I have outrageous blood pressure and the salt water is pure evil for me...
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at 05:59AM 11/05/08
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at 05:59AM 11/05/08
ladybug:
This is the only thing right now that is good in this election.
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at 07:24AM 11/05/08
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at 07:24AM 11/05/08
rachiebee:
It's great, but a part of me is just so heartbroken that it had to be not only the first black president, but the MOST LIBERAL president. Just seeing all of the crying people made me even more upset. It's like, "They don't even know what's really happening."
Lord change his heart.
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at 07:26AM 11/05/08
Lord change his heart.
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at 07:26AM 11/05/08
ladybug:
I know Rachiebee. I cant stop crying. God knows what is happening.
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at 08:06AM 11/05/08
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at 08:06AM 11/05/08
lizflaherty:
All our days of prayer and fasting have not and will not go to waste. I believe Obama knows he cannot be an extreme any longer...he now has to be the voice of our nation.
I think as a church the Lord is going to give us new strategy into abortion. We now need to be the voice of solution. Being at the forefront of adoption and effective evangelism that counters socialism.
We may have not won the battle but we will win the war!
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at 08:13AM 11/05/08
I think as a church the Lord is going to give us new strategy into abortion. We now need to be the voice of solution. Being at the forefront of adoption and effective evangelism that counters socialism.
We may have not won the battle but we will win the war!
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at 08:13AM 11/05/08
rachiebee:
@ liz - TOTALLY agree. It's up to US! Do we mope and stay angry (my flesh's preference right now), or do we stand up and say that our God is a GOOD God who does NOT forsake His people! The eyes of the Lord look toward the righteous and His ears are open to their cry!!!
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at 08:15AM 11/05/08
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at 08:15AM 11/05/08
xencounters:
@lilzflaherty - You can't legislate abortion, and I'm not sure that the Lord wants it to stop that way. The only, only way to stop abortion is for hearts to be so transformed that abortion is unthinkable.
That and the fact that abortion is a zilllion dollar industry. Providers are in it ONLY to make money. Curse the money like the fig tree. Once the money dries up, the providers vanish.
Here's a strategy that will put many providers out of business. Crusade in your community for minimum standards of care requirements at abortion clinics. Regulate that, because of the potential for catatrophic complications that providers have admitting privileges to a local hospital (many don't) and that they carry a set amount of malpractice insurance. 20 years ago a friend of mine was paying 10,000 a month malpractice insurance and he had never had a claim.
at 08:32AM 11/05/08
That and the fact that abortion is a zilllion dollar industry. Providers are in it ONLY to make money. Curse the money like the fig tree. Once the money dries up, the providers vanish.
Here's a strategy that will put many providers out of business. Crusade in your community for minimum standards of care requirements at abortion clinics. Regulate that, because of the potential for catatrophic complications that providers have admitting privileges to a local hospital (many don't) and that they carry a set amount of malpractice insurance. 20 years ago a friend of mine was paying 10,000 a month malpractice insurance and he had never had a claim.
at 08:32AM 11/05/08
xencounters:
@ladybug - you perceive you lost a righteous battle that your heart was so united with the Lord in. You are feeling tremendous grief...
BUT, this is a moment of opportunity we can't afford to miss. Obama had no intention of winning this. He was getting out there to be known for 2012. He had no plan on what he was going to do if he won going into this.
As he faces the enormity of the task before him, this is going to be one of the times he is going to be looking for wisdom outside himself. He needs an encounter with Jesus NOW.
This isn't playing out the way we thought, but there is still an opportunity for us to see a righteous man take the office of President in January....
at 08:48AM 11/05/08
BUT, this is a moment of opportunity we can't afford to miss. Obama had no intention of winning this. He was getting out there to be known for 2012. He had no plan on what he was going to do if he won going into this.
As he faces the enormity of the task before him, this is going to be one of the times he is going to be looking for wisdom outside himself. He needs an encounter with Jesus NOW.
This isn't playing out the way we thought, but there is still an opportunity for us to see a righteous man take the office of President in January....
at 08:48AM 11/05/08
lizflaherty:
I TOTALLY agree. I didn't see my comment as believing that abortion will end without the laws changing...
I am saying now that we lost the election for a president who is against abortion for the next 4 years new revelation and the game plan. I believe that giant can come down even when laws are still in place like you said...the hearts have to change.
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at 08:50AM 11/05/08
I am saying now that we lost the election for a president who is against abortion for the next 4 years new revelation and the game plan. I believe that giant can come down even when laws are still in place like you said...the hearts have to change.
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at 08:50AM 11/05/08
xencounters:
I have a different take on the practical battle of abortion.
Abortion is a very, very lucrative business and that is the bottom line. As Rush Limbaugh says, follow the money; the money always tells the truth.
This is not an ideological debate. Abortion providers do not give two hoots in hell about "a woman's reproductive rights." it is all about the $475 bucks a pop they get to dismember children. That translates into $1.9 MILLION A DAY, approximately for the abortion industry.
Kill the flow of money and you kill abortion in this country. I'm not aware of any pro bono abortion providers who provide services for the love of the cause.
I look at money like the fig tree. It can be cursed and it will dry up and blow away. Go after their finances in prayer.
Planned Parenthood has been whining that there areas of country where there are no abortion services available and that's horrible. A little research shows the doctors pulled out because there was no money to be made.
The most practical thing you can do in your city to stop abortion is start agitating with your city government to require abortion providers to have admitting rights to their local hospital and that they be required to carry a certain minimum of malpractice insurance. Many of these clowns have had so many malpractice suits they can't get admitting privileges and malpractice insurance would bankrupt them.
These are practical and reasonable measures to protect women because abortion is an invasive procedure that is inherently dangerous. About 1500 women a year die from "safe, legal" abortions. It goes after the root - money.
to aslan
at 09:46PM 11/05/08
Abortion is a very, very lucrative business and that is the bottom line. As Rush Limbaugh says, follow the money; the money always tells the truth.
This is not an ideological debate. Abortion providers do not give two hoots in hell about "a woman's reproductive rights." it is all about the $475 bucks a pop they get to dismember children. That translates into $1.9 MILLION A DAY, approximately for the abortion industry.
Kill the flow of money and you kill abortion in this country. I'm not aware of any pro bono abortion providers who provide services for the love of the cause.
I look at money like the fig tree. It can be cursed and it will dry up and blow away. Go after their finances in prayer.
Planned Parenthood has been whining that there areas of country where there are no abortion services available and that's horrible. A little research shows the doctors pulled out because there was no money to be made.
The most practical thing you can do in your city to stop abortion is start agitating with your city government to require abortion providers to have admitting rights to their local hospital and that they be required to carry a certain minimum of malpractice insurance. Many of these clowns have had so many malpractice suits they can't get admitting privileges and malpractice insurance would bankrupt them.
These are practical and reasonable measures to protect women because abortion is an invasive procedure that is inherently dangerous. About 1500 women a year die from "safe, legal" abortions. It goes after the root - money.
to aslan
at 09:46PM 11/05/08
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